So anyway, anyone who's just joined us, I'm joined by some programmers on the team.

This is stream exclusives, I think.

Actually, you two have been on the stream before.

You did the dev stream or the programming stream.

Yeah.

What was it you were

doing?

Upgrading engine.

Yeah.

Oh, dude, that was so good.

Because that was like right at the end of that stream.

You were like, oh.

It just started working?

Yeah, I was quite sweaty then.

Because you were running through the compilation errors.

Yeah, it was the shady compilations about how we did instancing splines and how...

how the Engine managed to compile all the permutations of all the shaders.

And it was not the most fun video, I guess, because it was just me saying, hmm.

But the payoff was there.

Yeah.

All right.

So this is Markus, and this is G2, or Gustav.

You also have a nickname.

It's Steak, which is like steak or whatever in Swedish.

Yeah, I guess.

And you're a programmer.

And you're a lead programmer.

What does that mean?

That means that I have a little more responsibilities, like managing the time for the rest of the programmers, like planning and try to see when we do stuff and how we do them, so try to organize with the rest of the departments.

Right.

And host meetings.

And host meetings.

I host a lot of

meetings.

How much time do you actually get to actually program?

I think it's, on average, it's like 80% programming, 20% lead.

Really?

I thought it was like, it feels like it's way less because you're always running around and talking to everyone.

You're like, lead meetings and whatnot.

But I run around a lot to fix stuff as well.

It's programming.

Yeah, true.

Let's move the mic towards G2 a

bit.

It's not a stream until Snuts touches the mic.

You forget you also fight for the tasks we programmers want to do.

Pitching the programmer tasks to the rest of the team.

You're part of like all those decision makings where it's like

like all these different aspects that come in like what decide deciding and what we're doing so like we have community coming in like having opinions and then us here's a studio have opinions and then like the leads and whatnot and like dividing I guess the tasks when we decide upon them

so yeah yeah me and the other leads and production sit together like every day and sync up and we always on those meetings bring up stuff that

what do we want to do next, and try to plan ahead.

Cool.