Our UI and UX people also use Microsoft Visio and YEd.

These are both like flow chart and diagramming tools.

We, for the most part, pretty much use YEd now.

It seems like we used to use Visio, but we don't really use it anymore.

And we use it to create like the menu flow, like, you know, how menus should work, what should happen when you click on buttons, et cetera, et cetera.

This is more of like the UX side of things, user experience.

And we weren't going to talk about hardware, but notebooks.