I believe you studied DSU Skövde, but what path did you take after, and how did Coffee Stain come to be?

I'm a late Coffee Stain.

Coffee Stain was, like, made.

If you talk about making Coffee Stain, yeah, they were all DSUers, and eventually just banded up and made their own game, Goat Sim.

And the studio...

They came straight from uni as an indie group and made Goat Sim.

In my case, yeah, I studied DSU.

DSU being Dataspelsutveckling, for those who don't know, which in English is game development, which is what I studied, with a programming specification in my case.

I did that for three years.

I interned at a mobile game studio for eight months after that.

And then that studio tanked entirely, so we all lost our jobs.

And I went from there to agricultural IT, just IT bog-standard, far from game development, in Skara, while doing hobby streaming at the side and just happening to know a couple of, like...

a couple of people in Kravde hanging out with them who were like a pretty good they knew me and they also knew CoffeeStainers and they were like a good little personality check bridge between me and what would eventually be Snutten for them to be like you should probably apply for this and me and Snut talked and he was like yo I like your streams and you kind of look like a like an idiot so come here work here I'm like okay and then I came to be here

Yeah.