more than one thing eca on update four so I said in the beginning but I'll repeat it again, we don't really have an ata yet because we're still working out what we want to make for update for how ambitious update 4 will be if we want to you know release update 4 in one big chunk or if we want to release update 4 you know segmentally, we're still working that out I believe we're getting closer and I say that every week but we are we are progressing on that, I think we have a pretty good understanding of what we want to do, but, there's there's still a few, unknowns, but we at the earliest I believe it's gonna be at the end of the year, and at the latest it's gonna be early next year probably, and if we feel like we're to aim for you know early next year then we're probably going to release something before then that's not update4 like we're probably going to release some form of content or you know there's still going to be patches probably for it and stuff like that and that's also kind of I didn't mention this before but it's also kind of like we're expecting that already internally because we're setting up our our work processes now so that we can do that so it's not like we're like stuck in like if you want to make update for then we have to wait for update 4 to be able to release stuff whereas now we're working more of like a branched way of doing things so like if people are implementing stuff on the map, then they can do that without being tied into like we have to wait until update four before we can push things, so there- I believe there's gonna be more smaller releases before that if I had to guess but I don't know for sure yet because, I'm still waiting on our producers to defend to find that