about four or five months do we think it's worth it, short term it depends who you ask actually some people say yes some people say ow no no Make It Stop ow some people say owies for example a notable one that you guys kind of saw the effects of was a few weeks back we had to delay one of our teasers because snoot was trying to take in-game footage that's what he was dealing with he was trying to take in-game footage for the teaser trailer and the Shadows were being a pain and then he fixed that and then it was just crashing Non-Stop and we had other people help him and it was a complete nightmare, and then the teaser had to get delayed and so in those cases does it feel like it's worth it no it feels awful but long term we truly do believe that this is the right move, yeah long term it will really pay off and so there may be growing pains there have been growing pains for us internally and there may be growing pains for you guys on the experimental launch of update eight and we'll sort of just see what we can do from that point on but we think in the end right at the end of the day right it's going to make for a better game and that is what is, most important we feel all right so that's pretty much all I wanted to talk