anything else no okay so you're gonna start rock climbing I rock climbed many years ago like 10 years ago man I can't imagine me doing it again yeah I think it was 10 years ago since I did it I used to do, the thing where like you're you're claiming on like non I don't know what it's called in english but like you you climb like lanes like people set up like this is how a path like a route is on the mountain or whatever and I used to do that like where you make lanes is it I used to turn on an actual rock wall it's not top rope because you're mate you're you're attaching the rope as you're climbing is it setting that's probably what it is that that makes the rings a bell, because you're making like