when did pre-production start for satisfactory what do you remember 2000 2016 2017 something like that yeah or 2017 something like that did did satisfactory really have any production really because like it felt like satisfactory went into the prototype stage like immediately well it's because status we went through a prototype period where everyone started making prototypes of various games and satisfactory was one of the prototypes and that prototype ended up being really really addictive so then we just jumped straight into that and everyone basically just started working on it yeah but I guess technically we do have like because we work very iteratively so every update we have like a pre-production phase, that pretty much starts when like we're wrapping up because like not everyone can work on the same part of the game at the same time so like artists and concept artists aren't working on you know concept art for update five when we're like in the late stage of developing update five because we're set on you know what things are going to look like yeah 3dr's already doing it so our concept art is like working on update blah like five plus one four plus one or whatever like the update x plus one when we start working when we start wrapping up update 5 or whatever update we're on so that is constantly happening yeah