So, why don't you guys introduce yourselves and like tell us what you're doing at Fish Labs? >> Uh, sure. So, I'm Julia. I'm a senior UX designer at Fishlabs. So, I take care of both, usability, navigation, this kind of stuff. Also UI, mostly on navigation, less on the art pass. And yeah, I've been working as one of the UX designers on the console board. >> Awesome. Alex, you want to do? >> Oh, yeah. Then I go next. Yeah, I'm Alexander Simman. I'm one of the the many programmers working on this project and I joined Fish Labs pretty much, when we started working on Satisfactory. Yeah. And, I'm Joseepp. I'm a senior Q tester at Fish Labs and lead Qatis factory project. And yeah, two and a half years for me on the for this beautiful journey and guess, we are live now. >> Awesome. Yeah. Y'all y'all made it. >> Yeah. Um what so what did, obviously you know this is a huge accomplishment but what was your journey like getting here even before fish labs? >> What so >> how did you get into the industry? >> Yeah, that's actually, a good question because as it is at least in Germany, it is kind of hard to get into it when you're at least when you're junior fresh from university. So you have to be you have to become very good in writing applications what, once you manage it the industry really sticks to you. So it's something that you really don't want to miss out on. Of course. >> But, once you manage it, the industry >> personally I sneaked in as a concept artist and then slowly transitioned to my >> current position which is actually what I want to do as UX designer but it took like 10 years >> of sneaking in between the roles like I could do this too, I could do that too and then getting to where I wanted to be. But yeah, it is a challenge. >> Oh that's awesome. >> Yeah. And for me basically breaking stuffs was was natural. So I went, I started EQA a couple of years before joining fish labs and then, yeah it's, something more than three years that I'm here in. >> Nice. Awesome. Yeah- I love hearing how people get into gamedev because I feel like in gamedev there's a lot of room for growth into different departments. So hearing people's journey about how they got to where they are is oftenimes really interesting. >> Yeah. It's also sometimes accidental, right? Right. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> End up being a project where there's nobody doing something. You're like, what if I try to do it and then you slowly transition to something else. >> Yeah. Exactly. Especially in cities like Hamburg or here in Berlin, you meet so many different people, from the industry that, that have their stories how they got into this industry. I've met people that went, from telephone companies or from banking companies into the gaming industry because they wanted to do something fun for a change. So that's really nice about this industry. >> Yeah.