when we up that 88 release hopefully it will be available on the experimental Branch sometime in October but we don't know it's been a long time in a making but, there's been a lot of stuff happening with that update and, actually we were talking a lot about like if we should have done like iterative up toate releases and we decided it's better to do it this way so that we can get out of the way, it'll mean that like we'll get to this point for upd faster but there won't be like anything in between but I think that's good too cuz then yeah I'd rather have it on EA when it's R than, red than sooner so like what I mean by that is we could have we were discussing if we should have had like two releases on EA so like one release would have been but it wouldn't wouldn't have worked out anyways because the, the stability of of experimental right now is fine but we still have that issue where like, people are crashing with later, generation graphics cards and I don't think that's acceptable, for our EA release if that issue is still there, so, yeah it wouldn't have actually another about it wouldn't have worked out anyways but we were initially discussing like long term where we were talking about this like we could have had two releases for EA with update eight so like the update 8.1 and 8.2, but we elected to just go the complete experimental route instead and like that that those releases would have been stable in our minds but since we have got that crash issue then we decided not to do it