then for mobile's the worst it works on one one ipad and not the other yeah oh god yeah both me and dylan worked with mobile games exclusively before working at coffee stain so we know that, that whole thing, one nice thing about working so I worked on console I mean you did too you worked on the ds stuff yeah that was a long long time ago yeah one really nice thing about working on console is that if it works it works like it's super easy to reproduce stuff on console and you know if you've solved it you know it works yeah you don't have to tell people to update their drivers yeah exactly like releasing games on pc is a nightmare when it comes to support stuff so I like- I hope we go back to console exclusive stuff because it's so much easier to develop less power though ah yeah I guess it is stop making so [ __ ] intense games why do we have to make him so, can't we go back to pong I know right is it too much to ask yeah in the future we'll have, consoles that you can upgrade which is just computers and then you have the same problem again so it doesn't actually matter anyway anywho rant do we change here that's just