question for you what is the sense of humor / memes come from so natural we're pretty tired like yeah super boring at work yes you saw the THQ yeah really are the rest of it is alive yeah no but the the honest there's the truth is Carson's been like this since the very beginning I wasn't there from the very beginning but it's always been like that even if you look at so sanctum and sanctum 2 are more serious games but even in there there's like a lot of like weird Easter eggs like these Fresno horses floating around in this dark room it's like what the hell is that about has nothing to do with anything yeah but that goes in there right and then goat simulator happened of course it's just how we've been all the time and even if you think about goat simulator that was a game that had like a lot of commentary on the game industry and and like twitch bait and things like that as well as even Kickstarter you know it we sort of just turned everything into memes and so that's just kind of happening now as satisfactory or that's what I'm doing it's gonna happen whether you like it or not yeah it's pretty relaxed here well yeah we joke around a bunch me and Simon have the thing where we do this yeah are you watching Simon are you watching got him do that it was like I was gonna include this thing yeah