are you or anyone at cof stain friends with any other developers or other Factory automation games swap ideas slw War Stories, we don't have friends at coffee stain, we because we're making a factory game so, we just sit alone and, cry and, work on this game I was kind of sad actually during my interview for this job is like, yeah it's just depressing just SP applying for it call around like it's time to relinquish all of your bonds and like okay yeah hi Mom, I'm not going to call you for like another eight years, have a good one so, no but we have, actually we met the Victoria devs a long time ago actually we met them, during, one of the, we met them in in Czech Czech Republic, and, hung out with them and we we've kept contact with some of them and talked to them a little bit it was we've, discussed our difference in code base a bit, also H talked a bit to the tectonic ad devs they're also nice people, the no I'm not going to tell that, so like yeah we we've we've talked to other Factory automation game developers and swapped some ideas and and War Stories, it's it's interesting cuz like a lot of stuff that, that, I'm thinking back to the factorio discussion we've had cuz we have a very different implementation of belts how we handle belts and like they solve very two very different problems the way we implemented our different solutions it's very interesting to to hear that like oh if we would have gone down that that route then we would have run into that issue we thought we were going to run into but it would have solved this thing but that thing wasn't as important for us, but this other thing was so like it's really interesting to hear that

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, so yes