April 18th, 2023 Livestream Red Jungle / Red Bamboo Fields

April 18th, 2023 Livestream

Red Jungle / Red Bamboo Fields


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my notes I kind of wanted to jump over to Bamboo Fields if we're done talking about this stuff something we talked about in the title force that we want to show off more I mean I also I also want to address like there's there's always some questions about terraforming and it's kind of the same situation like it seems logical from a real perspective that it can just modify the terrain but in order to support that in a game you need to make an insane kind of system for it and the way the landscape is generated doesn't support that at all and we would have to make a whole different system for that and like seeing it like be, being done in the engine you have an entire engine that facilitates that kind of stuff our game does not have that it would require us to like create a whole bunch of different features to do that and we don't really see the benefit, for this game of doing that either of like how much terraforming would add versus how much work it would be to add that, if a game is designed from the ground up with that in mind of course yes it's a part of that game it's part of that vision and everything ties into that for us it would be kind of a gimmick and most unless we address all the design issues that come with it but that's that's a whole can of work that would add years to our development yeah literally and and then at that point and then even if we did it at the end we'd like is how much better is the game maybe like two percent better yeah I don't know the cost benefit like way it's just way way heavier on the cost side so it's not worth it for us to do these kind of things yep yep dope so let's let's move over to, the the elephant in the room, all right no actually let's show up red jungle first actually yes I'm so I'm so happy I finally got to work on this area because I was, the old red jump or the way the the version of it that everyone still has, has the Christmas palette my my most wait what is it green and red Christmas I never liked it so the story about red jungle is like red jungle is one of the last areas I've worked on just before we went to Early Access just before the game went live for everybody and basically we didn't really have the assets to make a red jungle we didn't even have red like landscape grass at that point, so it kind of just made do with our library and what we had at the time and that was like half of the stuff we actually needed so now we finally got around to it, and I got to make it in a proper red jungle so we had like yeah like full repainting of the terrain, the red trees are still the same but like yeah all of the Lancia pitting is different all of the small foliage just completely overhauled it's it it is a proper red jungle though actually Oh no you're answering that cool the bamboo feels tradition yeah go away go away if anything it's like an interesting kind of trend, you know, before and after right I don't know oh yeah yeah I mean this is looking super like dense and Lush as well like in certain parts super nice more towards the right you're going to you're going towards bamboo Fields, so yeah I have to because the thing for me I think also because you're working with this Hannah but like part of me is like wow that Booth feels still kind of looks dope right now even though it's in this weird State, because when I was scouting, the teaser that got scrapped the original first video we were going to release, I filmed a lot of stuff in bamboo fields and then you were like no it's all broken I'm like well it looks cool though I like I mean the ideas are there because like this red jungle it was kind of kind of blowing out here there's still here's one of the examples I mentioned before beautifully in progress yeah so yeah this new water is is much better, it was kind of like this red like red green disgusting stuff on there before it was bad, yeah I also have something that changed in this in this area that there's more like open Parts more paths, clearly going through the area so this is less like claustrophobic in general the shallow water right so you can still drive here, some of it is some of it isn't yeah because there's a lot of like more dense so it's harder to like drive around here they feel like this is more of a you're under foots pathing here yeah stuff like that exactly it's all like that's all fairly new like the passing that's there I have to remind myself where I am constantly because I keep getting it going we're going towards Temple fields and there's still a bit of it yeah yeah this whole lower area as well and so much change happening to base terrain, in here no again it's like it's all small changes it's like smoothing and mostly painting and like just getting rid of the rough edges, those kind of things it it shouldn't affect you, not really you know should again as always you can hear the correctly and there was a ridge somewhere around here I don't remember if we used this footage in the world video but there was there was actually a shot that I made where there was like a tick walking on like a path it was like shot downward I had to remove like a whole [ __ ] rock to get that shot, and we didn't use that shot I think I put so much effort into that one oh well still hurting yeah or at least the J the snow cut yeah yeah at least this new cut for sure yeah yeah this this air is dope I love, red jungle was one of my favorite areas to run around and when I started playing the game for the first time what was wrong with you but that was terrifying oh yeah now we're going into bamboo Fields it's such a dude I'm constantly on the corner here like yeah yeah maybe you can go to the yeah with the the overhanging clips and stuff oh yeah we can do that let's go Gamers oh this is that actually be a pretty cool like drone you know PVP drone or it's called PVR PR drone hey edit it in progress area this is ignore that it's just that go fast I gotta go fast


I'm about to throw up we're gonna we're gonna have like 1600 people about to throw 700 people oh here it is oh no oh wait it's there that was not supposed to be there oh static mesh commit commit it no this is already committed yes oh wait wait I wonder if it's actually committed though because it might be I'm still on my branch but this is the shot I was working on, I had to remove like this whole thing you I don't think I mean unless you update it very recently and you got my my rocket desert changes this is yeah here it is a little guy I'm just a little Beanie I'm just hearing walking nobody don't worry about me I wonder if the, voice acting career oh yeah for sure hire me yeah all right I will hey everybody if you want to have understood as the first acting your game just give me a call okay bye oh [ __ ] fell through the world see the outline don't worry about it, we're talking about the, the cliffs part oh yeah you're here you're already there okay that was that was the area this here like a lot of the overhanging stuff oh yeah yeah hanging rocks up there behind you above yeah yeah the that like tights yes because they hang on tight right I was just guessing sure that's how you remember it's a 50 50. safer work, yeah you you might step on them okay all right let's check out this area over here, cool flowers huh wow look at that yeah and as soon and hands you can see a little bumblebee here or something like that, cool okay anyways moving on is this new water no it's not no it just looked like it was Rippling and [ __ ] we push up with the limo at true cool, do we is this now when we talk about bamboo feel this is the moment I'm gonna go there now, we actually so fun fact when Jace recorded this video, he had one set of information and then, ass development went on things changed so- I made like an addendum to the video even in the addendum we changed it nice yes because it's a bit of a it's a bit of a a tricky story, yes so now we're in bamboo field which is like this area is a little bit messed up or do you want to you can see right here I think with the the small paths is kind of they're there so basically what happened here is that the landscape and the foliage are different versions of this area so what happened is that we were working on this area and it went in a direction that we weren't really happy with so we wanted to revert it but the problem was this happened after our transition to Unreal Engine 5. so reverting it would mean going to the Unreal Engine 4 version of this area which was impossible to do so we kind of for a while we, have the the problem that okay we can't revert this what do we do, so but then Ben because he's a wizard figured out a way to revert the area partially but only the foliage so basically what happened is that we got most of the foliage back from the old area the old version of this area but all the landscape was still from the new version that we weren't too happy with so those two are now completely disconnected so now we there's also there's a lot of floating stuff here there's, the landscape in the foliage basically don't really work together anymore because they're from different versions of the area, so yeah Unreal Engine five good [ __ ] blessing in disguise very very well disguised, yeah the transition just works right yeah it just works but which means that like we we're gonna try to fix the worst of the bugs here before the update so there's not too much like in the way for people, but this area is definitely still gonna change because of course we have like the new Landscaping the old foliage and neither is exactly as we wanted so we'll be revisiting this area and giving it a pass now what exactly that entails we don't know yet we never really know until I go into an area and I develop the vision for it so I do a bunch of tests and I try to find you know new new combinations what is wrong with it what do we need to fix you know just finding a vision kind of like we we do with all the other biomes as well but I think this area is going to change the most from all the areas that are still left but I think that's kind of interesting how like at the moment we don't really know exactly what like we don't have a vision for how bamboo bam Bambi this is where the shooting happens spoilers I mean I'm definitely we definitely want to make the palette more interesting because it's kind of very one note now, and there's there's a bunch of rough Landscaping here that we want to fix and also this is one of those areas where we want to improve the the pathing add better roads do that kind of stuff, so that that's stuff that we're hoping to get in for sure but yeah it's impossible to to tell you the details because we don't even know that ourselves yet we're we're doing one thing at a time okay yeah yeah exactly right now I'm very busy wrapping up Rocky desert entire Forest very cool thanks Hannah helps a lot yeah appreciate your work I want to see if the area that I loaded in is is there there's one place where there were so many one version of this was just covered in these like bamboo sticks, oh yeah it's on the it's on on the right like right end of the Oh you mean at least on the right edge of the biome northwest's like very Northwest the Northwest upper corner flying as fast as I can there it is oh did I miss it oh here it is yeah yeah yeah yes it's like this for example is like it's a cool idea yeah but it's kind of terrible to play so it's it's something that we wanna we want to fix as well also, on that note the bamboo is completely new as well like the that asset's been overmauled entirely I thought it looked different yeah I didn't know if it was because- I'm rarely here or if it was because there was a change but like we did that when we worked on red jungle Bambi looks great yeah baby first I mean yeah for for for Avid chainsaw users this is a great area yeah if yeah if you're ever frustrated with the game just come here exactly yeah bring a bunch of cluster and Nobles and just [ __ ] go ham, I might even thank you no no that's actually how we we, work on it in in order to just bring it together Vincent here Vincent just asked a question that literally also just came to my mind it's so weird because I it came to my head and I looked at chat and it was there and I had a weird am I chatting is anything real is this like the the move the not tenant the, Inception thing or like they went into your dreams yeah something it was very strange, but, yeah so it's a the point of the game is to destroy the world and, like, industrialize it and and remove the beauty of it but that doesn't hurt you when you when you put so much time into this no and the point of things to remove it all weirdly it doesn't you'd expect so but for some reason no I, I part of it is, like part of it I joke about this but I'm also a little bit serious about it like something that- I think that's not to do today again yeah that's not supposed to be there God damn it I like to make as guilty as possible for destroying the environment and that's partially true, mostly I think that like on a conscious and subconscious level the environments have a lot more impact on people than maybe they are aware of because like the most important part is really like first impressions are always like the the most important with these kind of things because that you're going to carry that with you and they're gonna be like the lenses that you're gonna wear for the rest of the game, so I think it is very important to make a good first impression with with any biome but also I don't really mind that the point of the game is destroying area because also it's not entirely it's the point in the beginning because you kind of have to but after that you can work with the environment and I've seen some great builds, that use the environment like really well and like you know like super cool water fall factories or people that have like little shrines with parts with trees and Forest Parts which is crazy yeah this is one of the shots that I was working on yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's cool, so yeah I don't really mind at all because like a lot of the map also usually is left untouched and people still go out exploring and there's like there's some players that really focus more on exploring and some players are focus more on building and then I do it for the people that explore you know it's it's really not but it really does- I think I think like putting so much effort to the world just has so much value because either people will keep some of it there and then they get to just continue to enjoy it or, or or they'll, they'll work with it if they want that's another play style then they can enjoy it in that capacity but then like yeah removing it like it being so beautiful and then removing it like creates a Starker like difference right like from, and tells a bit more of a story I think than than if it was just like a sparse area that you know we just quickly threw together because you would destroy it anyway so yeah I think there's more impact in every case I think it makes a lot of sense yeah and like everyone will still experience the area before they destroy it like they're still gonna see everything, I like try to avoid destroying as much as I can it's like an added challenge they're like can I how do I build without removing the trees I often don't remove stuff either I usually find clearings myself I think I think I think partly it's because I lack the vision to be like if I remove the trees here this will be a big you know I don't know like if I was a more experienced Builder maybe I'd be able to like, see like oh if I work if I destroy some of the terrain I can work with this but usually I just like look for stuff that already makes sense to me in my brain and then and then go with it so I end up not cutting a lot of things down yeah no part I'm going to get this oh but that looks good in like oh no I built that I don't want to touch it it's it's mainly from what I play and other people play I'm like it's just great it's just people having options on how they want to play I'm all for it sometimes they destroy the entire environment and as stretch 70s nine says in that case we want to build upwards as in the sky and some people do that you can do that too if you like and you don't have to destroy anything if you don't want to you can also kill the animals just go on a killing spree because you can convert them to biomass I believe true yeah yeah exactly see the trees kill the animals yeah save the trees save the frames kill the animals, let's see you mentioned the abyss