any time frame for update five I'm gonna talk more about update five like later down the line maybe next week maybe the week after that, I have I have some ideas of like wait how what time when does js come back from vacation, I have some ideas of like some some information that we're gonna share with update five, but update five is probably gonna be sooner than you guys think we're not gonna wait an entire year until the next update okay, update five confirmed next week yeah so update five is is gonna happen sooner than you think but probably later than you hope it's going to be this year for sure that's that's all I'm going to say for now but that isn't saying much with us right well we haven't delayed an update so far like since steam we've been on track every single update so far so yeah 23rd of december yeah nailed it, let's see here any other questions I'd rather wait a year and have a banger update- I don't think we want to wait another year like we feel like we spent too much time working on update 4. I think at this point we'd rather like make a smaller update and just get it out to some degree, so yeah oh you guys you with your jokes about oh update three or five at like last day of the year you guys are so funny don't you I think you're so goddamn funny